oh jeez the translate bills are climbing rapidly. looks lik…

Kuba Suder 🇵🇱🇺🇦3 Nov 2023

Yeah I’ve considered that - might do it so free users can paste in their own key

Oof… That's Google APIs or what? What's the pricing statistically per user, order of magnitude?

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Kuba Suder 🇵🇱🇺🇦3 Nov 2023

I really suck at knowing what stats are relevant here, but £200 predicted costs divided by somewhere between 6k to 10k monthly active users goes to a very small number

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And probably only some small subset of users uses this feature, but it's hard to tell without analytics…

considering it's something like 20usd per million characters, per user statistics might really go quite high?

Kuba Suder 🇵🇱🇺🇦3 Nov 2023

So that would be like 1 $cent for each ~5-10 messages translated…

Barry Dorrans 3 Nov 2023

You’ll need it for notifications anyway.

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Why would you need premium for notifications?

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Barry Dorrans 3 Nov 2023

The infrastructure needed for notifications isn’t free You tend to go from a serverless setup to computing instances quickly and beyond your free dev account super fast

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I don’t understand: it’s the blsky.app servers that push notifications to APN and FCM, aren’t they?

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No it’s not - well, it’s the AppView that pushes notifications to the official app, but 3rd party apps are gonna have to do something else

Barry Dorrans 3 Nov 2023

And this is a third party app. Bluesky notifications would open the Bluesky official app would they not?

Afaik no: they push the notifications to the APN/FCM servers that in turn push the notification to the devices. I’ve submitted a PR against Graysky to implement notifications (and it works using expo’s notification service), so I’m interested by this discussion.

The token used to identify the device is created by the app (Bluesky or Graysky), so I guess the notifications will target the correct app

Now, Bluesky servers may filter notifications to tokens issued from their official clients, but we can’t tell

oh noes. maybe put the in-line translation to the pro mode, and adding gif (but not seeing gif?)

GIFs are free, but I might paywall translations yeah

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stellz 3 Nov 2023

wait you're paying for translations? I assumed the cost was the reason the official app kicks me out to the Google translate app

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Yeah lol that’s why it’s better

Billy 3 Nov 2023

Is there a way to open Apple Translate? or is it only accessible with the 'Translate' option if you select all the text

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No clue tbh. React Native sucks at selecting text for some reason

Yeah, makes sense. Does the open page to translate (what bsky defaults to) cost as well?

no that's just opening a web browser lol