Samuel
explaining composable moderation to an uninformed and angry discourser: so how much Ada Palmer have you read
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Why
Yeah i was reading the series quite recently before we started in on moderation system design
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Orual
It informed a lot of my ideas about moderation as well. This explains a lot, actually.
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Ada Palmer
I love this so much! And very much agree. Thinking about different philosophies of how/why people want moderation & making separate logics for them.
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Why
Terra Ignota is one of the few sci-fi series i've read that actually presents a compelling and novel take on future governance. Thank you for that, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Why
My first pitch on 'how should we build the moderation system' early on came with publicly declared 'zones' that told the system and other users who was allowed to moderate you and your domain (your replies, mentions, etc). I was maybe a little too Hive-pilled
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Orual
Yep. One of the fundamental patterns I kept seeing over and over is that there was no way to escape bad (by whatever personal definition) moderation except by making a completely new space, which would inevitably only attract the most frustrated and cantankerous people from the old space.
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Orual
And Terra Ignota presented in its way a very clever, if flawed in its own ways, alternative to that sort of thing. It's one of my absolute favourite series for a reason.
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Ada Palmer
In research on censorship we call that the Early Adopter Effect, that the 1st adopters of new information technologies always included those who were being silenced under older systems, thus including the most feared voices & making them suddenly disproportionately loud. This is my current research
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Ada Palmer
We see this in all stages, from the printing press pamphlet wars of the 1500s, to radical early radio, to the use of the mimeograph/ditto machine by radical groups ranging from civil rights groups & LGBT communities to the KKK.
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Orual
Yeah, makes total sense. Selection effects are huge, and the people with the most to say who couldn't say it before, are going to take advantage of new-found freedom (for better or for worse).
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meff
Wow this research sounds really cool and kind of what I have also experienced on splinter net communities. (And loved Terra Ignota!)
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bryan newbold
we had an alternative design at some point that was even more Terra Ignota style, with publicly known jurisdiction/affiliation for each account
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bryan newbold
also the way minors are treated in terra ignota is interesting, was just thinking about having an advisory council of teenagers or something like that 🤔 folks who run their own individual mastodon instance have Black Law energy
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Laurens
too like the lightning has been on my toread list for a while, sounds like i have to pick it up!
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