Samuel
another good example of “it doesn’t have to be like this”
Cabel Sasser@cabel.panic.com· 5 Oct 2025
i don’t like or understand ai. but it’s wild to see this person, who clearly DOES understand it and obviously knows a LOT about it, be repeatedly told they are stupid? i think a lot of bluesky thinks the simple solution to discomfort is bullying which is so weird given we were all surely bullied??
then: you don't need to "understand how the human mind works" on any level in order to make a computerized map of the connectome including every protein and cell. this is similar to how we do not currently understand how LLMs work but we can run them using opaque frozen weights.

bluesky: We do know how LLMs work. What the fuck are you talking about? Lmfao.

them: this is a common misconception about modern ai systems. they are grown, and not crafted; we understand the process that builds them but lack a paradigmatic understanding that answers the question
"how do these 1 trillion floating point numbers do ‹x>". this has been the case since the DL revolutionthem: the way it actually works is that we initialize 1 trillion random floating point numbers as activation weights and biases in an enormous multilayer artificial neural network, give it tasks, and use vector calculus to update those 1 trillion neurons based on empirical task performance

source: i am literally one of the engineers/ research scientists who builds and optimizethem: and when i say "we update the neurons based on empirical task performance",
, the “we" is not any human at all, it is an automatic process called gradient descent

the job of these engineers is to make the framework that grows the neurons and feed the pipeline that executes, measures, and backpropagates task pertormance

geoffrey hinton won the nobel prize in physics in 2024 for his contributions that helped make this possible

bluesky: i think you maybe unwell
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Samuel
quality of discussion is so poor it doesn’t even qualify as “discussion” anymore
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Christophe Michel
You can't have a public social network without that kind of interaction coming up if the default is to allow everyone to talk to everyone. You can't have global discourse across the planet without getting a humongous amount of assholes in it.
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Samuel
@samuel.fm
I mean totally agree but the problem is the moment you see a stupid post, the emotional damage is already done even if you block them immediately we need to stop shoving garbage in your face basically
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Christophe Michel
Is it possible without taking away user agency though? We have fine-grained controls to define who can respond to our posts to a certain extent to prevent bad interactions, but if we have automatic filters how can we make sure they don't mask anything meaningful? Or that we want to act upon?