Samuel
@samuel.fm
yeah there was a big backlash to expanding the Ultra-Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) to the whole of London, which fines cars according to how polluting they are. Yet he still wins with surprisingly large margins anyway lmfao
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Yves Venedey
That's great. I wish we had the same in Berlin. The new conservative mayor of Berlin has stopped many plans for protected bike lanes.
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Kuba Suder 🇵🇱🇺🇦
😒 I ride a bike sometimes for fun, but I like getting around by car and I really don't like restrictions 😛 But I guess it makes sense if it's scaled based on the "cleanness" (not sure what the rates and levels are?).
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Samuel
Yeah it’s mostly old, large diesel cards that are impacted the most. My small car for example is not affected at all. But the main thing is wtf are you doing driving in London at all, it’s faster to get pretty much literally anyway via world-class public transit
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Samuel
I’ve done a fair amount of driving in London and it absolutely sucks. It’s just not built for cars at all, and there’s no parking anyway so why bother
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Kuba Suder 🇵🇱🇺🇦
Yeah, I think it is pretty cramped there on the streets… and your metro is really good. We *might* finally start working on our first line here around 2028-29 if all goes well 😅 (the previous administration was firmly against it somehow because they said it doesn't make financial sense…)
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Samuel
you could be the best driver on the planet and it would still suck ass. it’s just not a fun city to drive around
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Kuba Suder 🇵🇱🇺🇦
We had a similar drama here in Krakow lately, they came up with this "clean zone" idea to ban old engines (mostly older diesels), which made sense as a general idea, but after several changes the plan was to enforce it within whole city borders, which extend way beyond the actual city in some parts…
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Kuba Suder 🇵🇱🇺🇦
And in the end the courts scrapped it for formal reasons, because it wasn't defined well enough, and then there was the election so no one wanted to push it - so they'll probably get back to it, but in some more limited option.
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Mary Branscombe
The backlash was Tories stirring people up against a policy they fucking started just in the hopes of trashing Labour and screw air quality for self interest
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