Samuel
@samuel.fm
I should revive Dan's experiment to kill the floating "load more" button
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Samuel
added myself back to the feature gate and it's like a breath of fresh air. need this so bad
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Samuel
hmm, I don’t love the home button having an unclearable dot if you use Discover as your main feed… maybe that needs some thought
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Samuel
ok here’s my solution for what to do about the FAB: 1. only get rid of the button in the root screens - home+your profile 2. only show the dot on the home tab if you’re currently on the home tab 3. make the FAB smaller and less extremely ugly on the rest of the screens
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hailey
make the fab smaller and remove the icon yes. but don’t get rid of the fab. on android it’s the only way to scroll to top. and i think it’s useful even on ios because i don’t want to move my hand up there to scroll to top
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Samuel
but if we’re only removing it on the root tabs, you can just press the tab buttons no?
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hailey
idk double tapping the home icon to me isn’t super intuitive. particularly if you don’t know it’s a common ios design thing
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Samuel
it’s not a double tap tho is it? it’s a single tap, it performs exactly the same function for comparison, this is how twitter does it
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futur 🔹
blue dot on home icon is a pretty common affordance for that reason I think personally I've never used the fab because tab bar is right there
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Emily Hunt
Double tapping? If I'm on the home tab and tap once it goes to top, and it feels intuitive The round scroll to top thing is obtrusive when I'm doing a long scroll, would honestly love to see it go 👀
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Pooh Sticks
I don't know about Android but on iPhone the FAB is doing two things synchronously... 1 - Scroll to top of content 2 - Load new content The iOS way to do 1 is to tap the screen at the top... above the notch... and this works in bsky as expected. So why not extend that to double tap for more?
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Samuel
I hate maintaining one billion terrible options for people that refuse to accept change even if the ui sucks sorry
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mew
fwiw people adapt. Discord proves this anytime they do a (good) redesign and people whine for a week before they forget about how it used to be
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Samuel
Yeah exactly, that’s why you’ve gotta have confidence in your decisions and not keep everything sticking around behind an option
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mew
I forgot a sentence. Discord proves that it’s okay to fix bad ui
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Pooh Sticks
I mean... yeah. So just delete? Why do people love it? We are in this liminal ux space where some folk have realised that the controls should be by the thumbs and some still default to the top of screen. iOS has started to push stuff down but it's still a building site with lawyers in the JCBs.
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Pooh Sticks
So we get these weird things where the OS does something badly for everyone and different apps do it differently bad for their users. People get attached to both bad takes.
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Samuel
wasn’t quite the right solution for a couple minor reasons but nothing insurmountable
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dame
oh no this made me become aware of my nose in the periphery of my vision again... gonna be stuck thinking about it for an hour at least
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Alessio Maffeis
How is it worse than the circular one with the literal (not my words) "bird shit" on it? :D This one also can also show you some highlighted posters. Either way, would be good to have an option to disable it in the settings.
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Alessio Maffeis
Got it. I was purely talking about the UI, not the logic. One thing I would like to have in a client tho it’s loading new posts above, keeping the current position. That would allow you to continuously scroll upwards to see newer posts.
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Alessio Maffeis
Automatically scrolling to top when new stuff is loaded is easier to implement and get right, but leads to losing context and a weird sawtooth scrolling pattern that I find exhausting.
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cyle gage
imo it should be a “new posts” pill button that only shows up when there are new posts, because that’s its utility 👀
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cyle gage
in the tumblr app the home button becomes an up-arrow to go back to top once you scroll, and if you go back to top and tap again it goes back down to where you were. we called it the elevator button. very useful.
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Andy Bell
regardless of how it’s improved, I think making it possible to remove it in settings will be very well received
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