Samuel
very funny how one of the most impactful events in world history (crucifixion of Jesus) Pontius Pilate probably didn’t think about it for more than 5 minutes. It probably wasn’t even the biggest thing he had going on that day
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Samuel
the historicity of there being someone called Jesus in 1st century Judea is pretty well settled
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JM
Sure, like there are lots of Bobs around today. But none of them are a god from a virgin birth.
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Samuel
sure but if i make up some shit about a guy I know called Bob that doesn’t mean that Bob didn’t exist. It just means Bob didn’t do those things
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Samuel
There are lots of Messianic claimants from that era - what that basically meant back then was they claimed they’d be the one to restore Judean independence. I think it’s pretty likely that the guy the bible was talking about was probably real, given that Tacitus mentions him as a Messianic claimant
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JM
The Bible is an ever-evolving book full of fiction, superstition, contradiction, and lies.
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Samuel
@samuel.fm
I’m literally talking about non-biblical sources, unless you think Tacitus wrote the bible
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JM
Lots of people wrote the Bible. Mostly to control the weak gullible fearful people.
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Samuel
Cool, not the point. There is evidence for the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth outside of the Bible - such as Flavius Josephus, a Roman-Jewish historian
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